GroupMe SMS is dead, now what? — Ctrl, Shift, Esc

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Look what happened when TAG and Purifone ignored people wanting Waze and other features.

We ended up with Fig, a kosher smartphone with a keypad taped on, taking over, and becoming completely accepted.

Pretty bedi’eved.

I think people look at group chat something necessary enough that if no one does it the right way, it will just end being done the wrong way, by a “kosher phone” company run by a well meaning baalabos, that doesn’t understand what a kosher basic phone is actually about.

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Agreed.

If an official elegant solution isn’t maintained, users will naturally migrate to whatever duct-taped alternative keeps them connected.

Though imo WhatsApp is already way to far.

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agree that it could very likely happen but why cant people just do mass text?

if it is done hopefully it will be like megalife version

Group MMS?

Yes

Biggest reasons are because it’s max 20 people, can’t add or remove people.

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It won’t happen right away, but I think it will happen eventually.

My guess is ETA ≤ 5 years

Think everyones forgetting how texting was viewed 10 years ago. There used to be a major fight against texting. Why? Because the entire world used it. There was cha-cha (remember that?:slight_smile: ). Twitter to SMS. It used to be much more of a problem. As the world moved on from SMS the Frum world vs Texting fight simmered down. Texting is way more tolerated than it used to be. Us Jews are basically the only ones still making bots and chats for SMS. (Granted. Recently with AI bots there was somewhat of a revival) I personally witnessed this. Even recently with GroupMe it was viewed in the Yeshiva world as a problem. Not a solution. Im pretty sure now that it’s gone they’re all breathing a sigh of relief.

Bottom line is. From the Yeshiva-world viewpoint I don’t think they’re very eager to replace GroupMe chats

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I see you didn’t read my article.

Also, I disagree on

I can’t say what it was like 10 years ago, but I can say that the fight against texting never dissappeared.

Just what the fight is over got a lot more isolated into different parts of the yeshiva world, depending on where they’re holding.

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I actually did read it and liked it. Not sure what you mean though.

I’m also curious why any kosher phone would allow matrix? It’s kind of opening the floodgates for anyone to make whatever hookups to WhatsApp, telegram, ai chat bots and whatever.

Whitelist servers? Who decides who runs the kosher hosting servers? And then your sort of handing out monopolies

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Hopefully quicker (bite me)

TAG actually had been offering Waze on the LG Classic before FIG existed. TAG is not a filter creator and they have no means of offering what they’re not given to offer. Until Koshertek came around they couldn’t offer for TCL either. Purifone is a company who does not offer apps such as Waze on basic phones due to their shittos about what a basic is supposed to be. Actually similar to some of the opinions you have.

Edit: they also offer Waze for some models through Kosherphone (another filter creator) and this I’m not 100% sure about but I’m pretty sure they were doing it before FIG on these models too.

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The sheer number of apps available today can be overwhelming and make you give up on thinking.So now I’m also afraid of my smartphone.Nokia is now starting to offer 4G feature phones with physical buttons and AI voice control.Nokia! Nokia!! Nokia!!! So Many live LIKE SAME…GroupMe SMS is dead.Many people will be sad…than LIKE SAME

What’s the point, sms groups on a server? I really don’t get it. Unless you wanna create the next iMessage this isn’t going anywhere.

Nothing open source is getting adapted mainstream anywhere, no one will ever trust it and the experience will always depend on end distributers fighting over everything.