I know that I have said this so many times, but I finally have gotten things under control and sorted out and I have a big update coming through you guys soon regarding Mesnan
But anyways, continue on 
there are alot more morons than you think. I have spoken to rosh yeshiva about this. Why would parents buy their kids f21s if they only buy their kids kosher phones and how many qins have been sold by all the different companies that don’t have a hechshar they don’t do research
i cant give you a solution i could tell you the problem
I’m really sorry but with the logic that people are just stupid and can’t be educated, there is no solution. So if you are looking for a solution you can’t call people stupid and non edjucatable.
If you don’t want a solution but you just want to vent your opinion and how it’s a problem that CAN NOT ever be fixed then vent away
But people really are stupid…
Well I think education is the solution to ppl being dumb and clueless
That is not true - you can educate dumb people
Yes, I think there are ways to educate dumb people as well
Just ask the phone companies, how they educate all of us..
(and especially the dumber ones of us)
UX and UI are the number one reason that people use their phone less. Hardware is #2
This is why Light is so successful.
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Translate Yiddish with Gemini. Really not bad.
C/P from Gemini
I’ve translated the Yiddish text for you below.
Translation:
The Insider Story on the Phone Market
I know this from a firsthand source!
A fellow Jew from Williamsburg wanted to release a phone and capture the market,
so he opened an organization called “Vaad Hakehilos”
and his phone received the certification—makes sense, right?
A new phone with a new certification, and all is well with Israel.
Now, even if you have a certification, you need to have a good product,
which he didn’t have at first.
Secondly, he came out with the same hardware as the Fig phone.
Why was his “kosherer” than the Fig?
Oh, because you couldn’t “swipe” (does anyone remember that?). Yes! Swiping is addictive, so you can only touch, not swipe.
Agreed. Anyway, the public didn’t swallow those stories so quickly.
Plus, when you walked into a cellphone store and asked for a good new phone, the answer was “a Pom for $375 or a Fig for $329.” What’s the difference?
The Fig also has swiping, plus it has Weather and Waze. So, the default was the Fig, and they indeed flooded the market. Seeing that the first strategy wasn’t working well, they concluded that swiping is actually allowed. If so, what’s the problem with the Fig?
Oh, it has Weather and Waze! Agreed.
Heimish businessmen, seeing the market for high-quality Android phones, seized the opportunity and invested blood and money to bite into the potential clientele. Let’s go in order:
The Wonder Phone
Wonder came out about a year and a half ago. It didn’t have Weather or Waze, and the creator didn’t market it as having them. Just a good, strong phone—one that feels good. I personally called Geder—
who only approved Vaad Hakehilos products at the time—because the Vaad didn’t have an official number for questions yet.
They were hesitant: “We don’t know yet, call back in a few days.” I called an employee at a well-known cellphone store who revealed they had been saying that for 3 months already.
Everyone knows the conclusion. Wonder got tired of waiting and asked TAG for approval and received it. “But it doesn’t have the ‘Certification’ clientele?” Oh, so they’ll add Weather and Waze and at least have those customers. A simple calculation.
The Trust Phone
Now to Trust: the owner—who is the owner of Diamond Telecom—invested around a million dollars in a phone! He asked Vaad Hakehilos for the “catalog” of conditions to get approval and followed everything! Originally, he was supposed to come out with three types of phones: a Talk and Text with Vaad standards, an upgraded version with Waze/Weather, etc., and the “Mega-Life,” which is a separate brand for businessmen. He chased the Vaad Hakehilos certification for months—I know this firsthand! Months! When he was finally determined to meet this so-called Vaad, an audience was confirmed, and they did not approve it! Yep. You want to know why? No reason.*
The Real Reason
The real reason is in my introduction. The certification was fundamentally established because of the Pom phone. If they approve the Wonder or Trust, which are much better phones in both hardware and software, it will undermine the Pom. So, the Kiryas Joel-style clientele who only buy what has the marketed certification won’t go to Wonder—because it doesn’t have the certification…
Enter Lmasseh
Until Rabbi Baruch Yehuda Kahana from TAG Williamsburg arrived and “restored the crown to its former glory.” His argument went to the root of how the official version of Vaad Hakehilos established that everyone must be without Weather and Waze. “You need Waze? Buy the device (coincidentally also released by the Pom publishers) that plugs into the car for Android Auto.” Fine. But it needs to make some sense. Just as you understand some people don’t want a camera, there are those for whom Waze is critically important. If you allow Waze, why not on the flip phone? Thus, he founded the “Lmasseh” certification. Multiple levels, with text, without features, etc., so everyone can choose which level they want to stand on. Good Shabbos.
Naturally, “they” went wild. But when you see a picture showing a Wonder phone coming out with the Vaad Hakehilos certification—which likely won’t have Weather and Waze—then why didn’t you approve the Wonder a year ago before he decided to add Weather and Waze?? I don’t know the Greentouch history as well, but I know Vaad Hakehilos recently called R’ Michoel Diamond saying they want to give a certification to his phone. You have to wonder why, exactly now after the opening of the Lmasseh certification, the creators are “ready” to release an edition for the Vaad… it looks more like the Vaad asked for it (and the proof is Trust/Diamond Telecom).
Is that clear enough? Copy it quickly because I’m afraid I’ve crossed a line. But keep this rule in your hand: Stop buying marketing! Whether it’s in the form of an organization or a “Kol Koreh” (public proclamation)! Yes, a Kol Koreh. I personally follow Kol Korehs from time to time… back to the subject. The Lmasseh certification is booming, and in the coming time, good cellphones will also come out for the “system-style” clientele, so don’t worry. Understand? If anyone bent, it was the so-called Vaad.
P.S. Just after writing this, I hear an advertisement—it’s not clear exactly what they’re talking about—but the ad says a totally new Pom phone is coming out soon that will be “exactly the thing” (so says the ad). Pom 2026! So put it together yourself…
*If you want to know how they dodged it: “It looks like the ‘Cat’ phone…” Even though he invested heavy money to change the external look, like the light blue color on the outside, the completely changed keypad, etc.?! Plus, this isn’t in the book of conditions. Meanwhile, the “Tech” phone has the same look as the Queen/Tic, and besides the color, nothing is different, yet you approved that one? Go argue with them…