Emunet - New Filter

That has nothing to do with how the content filtering is done, and more to do with how the program that enforces it works.

NetFree allows emulators, and internet inside the emulators is filtered.

Bla bla bla, I’m not going to argue here. But believe me, you know nothing in this field. You don’t want to know unless it’s your job. It’s a huge, endless, complicated, professional, genius field that belongs to the world’s biggest network processing engines, Like Google. I thought I could make a network filter until I realized it’s all child’s play.It’s hard to explain, like an engineer in a nuclear reactor trying to explain to a solar panel company what the job is all about. Whatever.

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Spoke to someone about it and he said that it is based on OpenCV.

Just a question why is this not good if the filtering is done on device?
It removes the need for ssl decryption that is not secured.
The filters on the Livigent filter have ssl decryption that can be captured by anyone knowledgeable in the field.

Emunet may not be the best filter but it changing the way people think about filters, and is doing it in a good way.

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Most filters install a CA cert to which only the company has the private key. DPI is done on their servers and unencrypted traffic cannot just be ā€œcaptured by anyone knowledgeable in the fieldā€.
Only the filtering company can inspect. (FWIW)

I think this is a great step in the direction of privacy.

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@Dev-in-the-BM_2.0 do you know what SSL decryption is?

Maybe it’s to use your resources instead of their own?

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@Dev-in-the-BM_2.0 @josiasmiller @Tora_Tech @sh7411usa

There are things i cannot talk about, but the point of that message was:

I said that last year.

Until you know what’s going on - don’t talk. That’s all. I mean, it’s a forum, everyone can talk. But I may add a ā€œcommunity noteā€ saying ā€œguys, watch out. Much misinformation coming inā€.


Don’t be sheep. The sad part about todays days market is that your product does not depend on quality, craftsmanship, genius - or any real meaningful thing. It depends on one thing only:

That. Marketing. Cheating. Misinformation. Just like the $SPCX IPO.
that’s all.


Remember when Naki launched against 24Six? They gave out a whole booklet explaining why ā€œnot gonna say who but obviously 24Sixā€ video features are Harmful and dangerous. Lemaaseh they suck. Zing never launched a product based off ā€œlook what they do bad I’m betterā€ but rather ā€œI’m me, this is what I do, think if you should go for itā€ā€¦

There are companies that play clean and companies that play it dirty.


Overhere, we have companies that promise the world. But in reality, very few companies can do it right. Very few. Once you are in the line you understand that. You KNOW that there’s NO WAY they solved this and this issue. And you make a calculation and come out with a conclusion that their solution was - Screw over the gullible customers.


Company A has over 2k little servers all over the world to boost latency. Works fine.
Company B thinks ā€œthere’s no way we gonna get that… it’s years of farmingā€¦ā€ and then some shmigegi comes up with a solution ā€œwhy are we proxying even? Let’s make it localā€ like the kiwi browser extension iykyk.

That’s not a solution for billions of reasons. But with the right connections - you can get away with it and the competition and customers suffer.

One example.
a poor example.
better examples are confidential.
don’t be sheep.
do research.


Bye.

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For certain types of people will this be useful?
For example people with a whitelist? Or people that need certain compliance, and as far as I know, no filter is able to be compliant.

I get that a local filter would be very resource intensive, but genuinely curious, why is it everyone puts so much trust into companies like techloq. a regular browser is end-to-end encrypted. if i understand correctly, a MITM type filter basically intercepts all data, (including CC info and banking logins), and de/re-encrypts it on their own servers. Is there any info about what type of security techloq has? Have they ever undergone an audit? What’s stopping a random employee from selling everyone’s data? should i not be logging in to banking sites on a filtered computer?

as someone who doesn’t know too much about the field, it seems like most filters are a privacy/security nightmare, basically like using a random, no-name free VPN. wouldn’t filter like emunet would solve that.

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We have a BAA with techloq which means that they are HIPAA Compliant for us and can handle phi

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My Crashout

Think about it. Is that even a filter? Is that even something useful? For the sake of this discussion I’ll say it out loud:

A WHITELIST FILTER IS TRASH.

Think what a whitelist filter is - a poor example of a poor company selling a poor product.

DO I HAVE TO WAIT 30 SECONDS FOR EVERY NETWORK REQUEST TO BE ALLOWED? 5 SECONDS? WHO NEEDS THAT? I’M A BUSY PERSON. A WHITELIST? SERIOUSLY? I CAN AI SLOP THAT IN A FRACTION OF A SECOND. THAT’S A PRODUCT? A WHITELIST? EVERY CAPCTHA WINDOW I NEED TO REQUEST?

we get BILLIONS of different network requests daily. HOW CAN A WHITELIST EVEN BE A PRODUCT???

thats the questions you gotta ask yourself.

of course people want it sometimes. but thats not a product that people shall pay for at all.

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Ok I’ll share something here.
I promise I did not set this up.
Got this right now.
This is a daily struggle.
Argue all you want.
Facts will not change.
Don’t be sheep.

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This happens with all filters, if a user is tech savvy I show him how to see what is blocked in dev tools. I think that the new filter solves some issues but there will be a tradeoff with many new issues.

I would not recommend anyone to use the new filter for work yet. If they want they can use on their own device after knowing the risks involved.

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Not all filters. Nope. And most users are not techy. and on mobile browsers it’s not an option

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Correct, where I work we deal primarily with computers and have around a 35k yearly bill with Techloq. There is a mobile browser with dev tools but those people that use it know how to request access.

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I’m still waiting for a good whitelist filter at a lower price than a regular filter. I’m not even in the field professionally and I’ve had tens of people asking for everything blocked except 1-5 sites. (yes, a good whitelist filter that will let captcha etc…)

And I agree with everything you said about filters being complicated, and don’t trust Emunet until it’s been used a lot, by many people, without issues. but most of it shouldn’t apply to a whitelist filter

Please AI slop one for me :winking_face_with_tongue:

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"Hi there,

Thank you again for requesting Emunet Early Access.

The response so far has been extremely positive, and we’re grateful for the strong interest and feedback we’ve received.

To keep the experience smooth for everyone, we’re opening access in small groups instead of letting everyone in at once. We began approving groups of users yesterday, and we’ll continue bringing more people in step by step.

Please hang tight and keep an eye out for your approval email. Once your access is ready, we’ll send you the next steps to complete signup and get started.

One quick note: if you requested access for iOS or macOS, those versions are not ready yet. We’ll be in touch as soon as they become available.

Thank you for being part of the early interest in Emunet.

The Emunet Team"

From what email address did they send it?

Here’s a picture of what the image filtering looks like. This is really good in my opinion.

I spoke to Geder today and asked about the filter, they said that it’s not ready yet for businesses to use.

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Sent from support@emunet.com

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I have a feeling that it will blur mordechai shapiro

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